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Wish: Reverse Rape

Discussion in 'Feedback and Wishlist' started by MuppetNecking, Jul 7, 2015.

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Would you want Vergence or other possible playable characters to have the option to rape enemies?

  1. Yes

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    97.2%
  2. No

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  1. MuppetNecking

    MuppetNecking Active Member

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    In all too many Run or Rape games (or in all too many of Kabs works), it seems that the protagonist (Verge in this case) is a poor, helpless victim who can only fight the enemies or be raped. I say, let him do the raping for a change! Maybe if the enemies health is low enough, similar to yours, there can be an option where YOU have your way with her/hir/him.
    ...then again, that all would be based on the assumption that Kabs is OK with Verge NOT being a bottom bitch boy, which I'm not sure she is. :p
     
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  2. ZodGilla

    ZodGilla New Member

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    How about hwen you KO an enemy, if you stand over their body and press the pickup button you'll fuck them? It could regen a little health, too!
     
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  3. Robyn

    Robyn Active Member

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    I like the way it is because the sex scene is supposed to be a threat to the player. It's appealing to him and, just like the character in the game itself, as good as it is, the main purpose of this trigger is to fight back against it, or else you'll become vulnerable to the enemies, consequently causing you to lose a good chunck of your life, if not making you die altogether. Making it an option for the player to be able to do to knocked out enemies not only can it become a distraction to the main goal of the game itself, but, altogether, just doesn't add up when it comes gameplay wise. Sure, for some, it can be rewarding because "ZOMG SEX SCENE", but how else can it actually be important and, again, rewarding? Extra life, health, weapons, x boost can already be found in random items throughout the game, so how else can it be an actual perk?

    Not to mention it can be a world of pain when it comes to multiplayer sessions.
     
  4. Joshua

    Joshua Member Dark Army Enthusiast

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    You do realize that this is a porn game, don't you? Saying that being able to rape downed enemies would distract from the main goal of the game is something of a misnomer. Though I suppose that would depend on the player. If the main goal of the game for you is to just beat it, they already have a SFW mode. For the rest of us, however, the main goal of the game is sex. Ergo, having an option for reverse rape would aid us in our main goal for this game. :p If an enemy was difficult to take down (think Sakyubasu no Tatakai), then that would add a worthwhile challenge to the game, and make the sex scenes that much more rewarding. :)
     
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  5. Robyn

    Robyn Active Member

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    Yes, I know this is a sex game. Hell, by all means, I'm all up for new, creative ways for there to be even more sex scenes in the game, but even then it needs some restrictions, or the game could just as much have sex scenes within every single frame of gameplay and just make it completely unplayable altogether, but hey, at least some people'd be happy about it, right?

    Like I said, the sex scenes work best as a threat to the player. It's appealing to you and you don't wanna escape it, just like the character itself, but doing so will make you lose a good chunk of your health. Should the sex scenes - somehow - work out as a reward to the player, I honestly believe it shouldn't be something doable against every single character you beat up. Maybe to specific enemies throughout the game? Maybe after you finish a level and beat a boss would make said sex scene be available to make the next level somehow easier? Those would be good points to consider. Anything else's just as good as stampling a "it's a porn game so it requires more porn scenes" badge onto a made-up excuse and hope it's approved by the team. And that's just silly.

    I'm not saying reverse rape shouldn't be added to the game. I'm saying that if adding it without a real structure or cause, consequently making it be just as amusing and useful, gameplay wise, as adding 10 thousand other sex scenes to the game, then it'd be best to be avoided being added to the game altogether.
     
  6. Bourlingueur

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    OR... add a sex-crazed character who can reverse-rape mooks to regain health, but is unable to escape rape scenes when he's down!

    Or, more conventionnaly, integrate it in a multiplayer mode where the goal is to rape more enemies than the others. :p
     
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  7. Warlordrules

    Warlordrules New Member Team Amorous Supporter

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    Maybe to finish the boss on each level you have to rape the boss.
     
  8. Aradea

    Aradea New Member

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    I agree I was thinking this same thing as I was playing the game how ever it should be in mind that doing it should be at the risk of another enemy hitting you off as you try to rape your downed enemy. which if that was so your best potion would be to rape that last enemy in the wave. also I wonder if adding this to any boss fights would be interesting as well OR in a boss fight if you knock them down and rape them it may not kill them but could knock out a much larger amount of there heath. this might not be the best idea a this moment as the boss for the moment is rather easy to kill
     
  9. mobiusscarf

    mobiusscarf New Member

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    Yeah, the issue with the system as it exists now is that it's somewhat counter-intuitive. Odds are, you're playing this game with the intent of enjoying the sex scenes, but the only way you can view them is by putting yourself in mortal danger. And even when you do, your incentive is to end the sex scene as quickly as possible because if you take too long, you'll die. This is a situation where the gameplay's priorities don't really match up to the player's priorities. If I'm playing the game and I see an enemy that tickles my fancy, I'll want to engage in a sex scene with them, but I won't have a means to do that other than to let them beat me up for a while, and then I'll be at such low health that I'll almost certainly die shortly afterward.

    A mechanic to allow the player to initiate a sex scene (probably with the grapple system) would be a simple and obvious way to resolve this issue. However, it should still run the risk of endangering the player's health if they play poorly.

    Additionally, I think it might be a good idea to have a health recovery mechanic built into the sex mini-game (regardless of who initiates it) where if you can get the arrow into the green area, you start recovering health, but rather than the green area getting larger the longer you have the arrow there, it gets smaller and smaller, so the longer you wait, the harder it gets to maintain, but if you can hold it together long enough (which should be extremely difficult), you get a "finishing" sex animation where the enemy comes instead of you and they are defeated. This creates a nice little risk-reward system.

    Here are some examples as I envision it:
    - You grapple an enemy and press the Special Move button to rip off their clothes and initiate the sex scene. Since you initiated it, you can break out of it at any time. You start off with the arrow in the red and you start losing health as the enemy resists. You get the arrow into the green and start recovering health. The green area starts getting smaller and smaller and so you're having a hard time keeping it in the green, but since you have plenty of health, you decide to keep trying and eventually the enemy comes and is defeated.
    - You lose all your HP and an enemy initiates the sex scene. You move the arrow into the green area and start recovering health. You have the option to break away, but you want more health, so you keep engaging with the enemy as the green area starts to shrink. Once it gets to the point where you're not confident you can hold it together much longer, you break away before you start losing health again.
    - You lose all your HP and an enemy initiates the sex scene. You move the arrow into the green area and start recovering health. You get enough health and consider breaking away, but you find you like the sex scene, so you keep going a little longer. Big mistake. The green area shrinks and you slip out of it, losing the health you earned. You struggle to get the arrow back in the green, but you can't pull it off. You come and you lose a life.
     
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  10. Azure

    Azure New Member

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    I support this idea. ^^

    Could also add in the little 'mini game' [when it's FIXED] to make it more challenging, since they don't want this to be a pure 'sex' game.
     
  11. Serge

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    I was gonna start a thread of my own about this but guess with the 65 people polling for yes there's no need for it now. I'm curious whether the devs addressed this at all and mentioned any plans for playable characters having the option of doing the raping?
     
  12. A BLT

    A BLT New Member

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    Alright so I'm just gonna glaze over this one. I have a lot of thoughts about it but here we go.

    First, the most common thing I'm running into here is how the game should be initiated. Arguments for both sides have been mounted but I'm here for both the player's interests as well as someone who understands a little of the game balancing act.

    I can agree with a reverse rape can and probably should restore health, usually a good spot would be 2-4 swipes from what an enemy normally does. To apply a number to it, if an enemy hits you for 15, a good spot for this health restore normally be 30-45. I'm also pulling from normal brawlers where if you're in a type of action like this. [Think Streets of Rage grapples where you whollop the enemy repeatedly until they die/you're stopped by a player or enemy.], you'd normally get invincibility frames, be able to recover appropriately and continue on. You have your reward for being good enough at the game to get that bonus. However, with how enemies surround you in this game instead of backing up and going in repeatedly like games of old. It's a little difficult on the player's end to mount a counterattack after be hit again, usually requiring you 'burst' out of the crowd around you. All I can say is with how the enemy interactions go about now, Players need either more health for the bang, or more invincibility frames to compensate. Of course, with difficulty changes this can vary and that's a very huge topic I don't have the text space to explain for.

    Of course this is under the assumption that players will be allowed to have enemies interrupt them in the act. I feel an easy solution is that players aren't interrupted like how enemies sex grapples occur, I haven't been under the hood of this game to see exactly how enemies sex grapples are being done but I'm gonna assume that they have to recognize being stripped themselves and when the player has fallen down. I can't just say to the game devs, "Reverse this, it's so easy pl0x." It can't be, they'd have to integrate some instance of knowing when the player is over a near death enemy, giving a button a new command of strip and then use either THE grapple button or a new sex grapple button.
     
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  13. J300MER

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    My thoughts on the matter?
    Of course reverse'd would be a preferred option. In many games from Patreon, Dlsite and others, it's a common desire to be submissive AND dominant. What's the point in having a linear character that gives you no options? It's bland, frankly. Giving people more variety gives more people a crave to play it.
    How would that be implemented?
    Perhaps it could drop a randomized item, or nothing at all, with odds. Or, provide a temporary outlet to attack a stronger enemy.
    An example would be someone who is strong, and unable to be hit by normal attacks until he/she looks away from your dirty acts.
    The customer always uses more imagination than the cashier.
     

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